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 Post subject: Reconnaissance Expedition: OLD SABINE BOTTOM WMA
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:54 pm 
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RECONNAISSANCE EXPEDITION: OLD SABINE BOTTOM WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREA
JUNE 29 – JUNE 30, 2012

INTRODUCTION:
The Old Sabine Bottom WMA is located in Smith County, Texas, approximately 20 miles north of Tyler, 10 miles Northeast of Lindale, and 7 miles Southwest of Hawkins. The WMA is 5158 acres of mostly bottomland hardwood habitat with oak, elm and ash, plus a diverse mixture of understory vegetation.

Nearby, to the Northwest is another 3802 acres of special interest land managed by the Little Sandy Hunting Club as a “non development” easement that cannot be developed or converted for other land practices such as timber harvest or alteration of wetlands.

The two sites are separated by the Sabine River.

Access to the WMA is via a restricted dirt road, requiring entry by permit, either a special Annual Hunting Permit, or a Limited Public Use Permit (both available via the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department.) The Limited Use Permits allows hiking, camping, fishing, photography, etc., except hunting, on the WMA property. Before entry into the area, the visitor must stop at the entry gate and fill out a two-part form, disclosing the purpose, date, time, and vehicle license plate number. Half of the form is deposited in a drop box upon entry, and the other matching half is deposited upon exiting. (Typically, hunters account for number of game animals seen, harvested, etc. on the form.)

This area was selected for reconnaissance because of the following reasons:
1. Located near prior sightings reported on various report websites
2. Contains major interconnecting waterways
3. The site is managed by the state for hunting deer, waterfowl, turkey, hogs, raccoons, squirrels, and rabbits. The hunting dates are restricted. Access is restricted. Use of ORV is restricted. Only archery hunting for feral hogs was allowed during this time of the year.
4. Discussion with the local wildlife biologist suggested very limited use by hunters and visitors during the summer months
5. The area is bordered by sparse development to the South and East, undeveloped wetlands to the West, and a large federal wildlife preserve to the North.
6. The site appears to offer adequate food sources, water sources, interconnecting waterways, cover/concealment, nearby sightings, and large areas with limited or no public access.

PURPOSE:
1. To examine the area to determine if there are any indications of habitation by large bipedal primates.
2. Also to experiment with the voice recorder features,
3. to determine how long the recorders would record with two AA batteries,
4. to determine if the external microphones would be sensitive enough to obtain decent recordings,
5. to determine if the camouflaged PVC containers would effectively hide the recorders and still obtain useful recordings,
6. and to determine if the recorders could be quickly deployed.

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 Post subject: Re: Old Sabine Bottom WMA - June 2012 - page 2
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:56 pm 
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EXECUTION:
Two digital voice recorders were deployed in the area overnight, unattended, in the furthermost regions of the site, near the river, to attempt to capture possible vocalizations in the area.

The first voice recorder was placed adjacent to a primitive, unused tent camping area, adjacent to a canoe landing at the river. The recorder was hidden inside a camouflaged piece of PVC pipe, and hung approximately 6 feet above the ground on a tree branch, approximately 20 feet from the river bank and approximately 40 feet from the park road. I have named this site 1.

The second voice recorder was placed adjacent to a clearing that may have been an old oilfield drilling site (not active and no equipment on the site-just a cleared area with crushed rock) that was approximately ½ mile west of site 1. The recorder was across the road from the clearing in a wooded stretch adjacent to the river, approximately 40 feet from the road and 20 feet from the river bank. Hung from a tree branch approximately 5 feet above the ground and further camouflaged with plucked ground vegetation around the pvc pipe. I have named this site 2.

LOGISTICS:
The first recorder (at Site 1) was a Sony ICD-P520.
1. The recording mode was set to SP (HQ, SP, LP)
2. The Voice Operated Recording (VOR) was set to “On” (On, Off)
3. The mic sensitivity was set to “High” (High, Low)
4. The recorder was started at 19:15 hours on June 29, 2012
5. The recorder was stopped and retrieved at 07:30 hours on June 30, 2012
6. The recorder displayed a "Low Battery" message
7. The length of the recorded track was 00:51:12 (51 minutes.)

The second recorder (at site 2) was an Olympus VN-7000.
1. Recording Mode was set to HQ (HQ, SP, LP)
2. The Variable Control Voice Actuator (VCVA) was set to “On” (On, Off)
3. MIC Sensitivity was set to “High” (High, Low)
4. The recorder was started at 19:30 hours on June 29, 2012
5. The recorder was stopped and retrieved at 07:40 hours on June 30, 2012
6. The length of the recorded track was 07:44:41 (7 hours and 44 minutes.)

RESULTS
The SONY recorder recorded sounds to an MP3 file that could be uploaded to a PC via USB cable. The Olympus did not offer any PC connectivity, hence those recordings were transferred and re-recorded via an audio cable connected to the PC and recoded via Wavepad. Smaller MP3 files were then made from each recording; any unusual sound other than the constant crickets, cicadaes and frogs were copied via Wavepad to a new MP3 file.

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 Post subject: Re: Old Sabine Bottom WMA - June 2012 - page 3
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:04 pm 
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Site 1
1. Sound of the initial deployment and walking away
2. Sound of researcher making a test audio by knocking two 2/4 boards together to sound like a tree-knock-sound was made three times and clearly recorded from about 200 feet away.
3. Loud crashing sound like a tree limb falling in the woods - some time after the researcher departed the site
4. 1st bipedal walk-up
5. 1st distant train whistles
6. 2nd distant train whistles
7. 2nd bipedal walk-up
8. 3rd bipedal walkup and 3rd train sounds
9. Unidentified bumping sound
10. 4th distant train whistles

Site 2
1. 1st unidentified howls
2. 2nd unidentified howls
3. 1st owl hoots
4. 2nd owl hoots
5. 3rd owl hoots
6. Tree Knock
7. 4th owl hoots
8. Distant gun shot
9. 5th owl hoots
10. Train whistles
11. 6th owl hoots
12. 2nd train whistles and end of recording (researcher walking up)


CONCLUSIONS
1. The SONY recorded more of the distant train whistles than the Olympus, suggesting the SONY may be more sensitive than the Olympus. But the Olympus recorded several howls not picked up by the SONY, which could have been due to site locations relative to the animal. Try deploying the SONY and the Oympus side by side next time with both set to the same mode (HQ) and then comparing the two recordings to determine if one is more sensitive.
2. The length of the Sony recoding and the Low Battery message suggested weak batteries, the researcher needs to insure new batteries are used on every expedition.
3. Use of the Voice Operated Recording/ Variable Control Voice Actuator could have resulted in missed vocalizations; also, use of VOR eliminated the ability to estimate the actual times of night that any vocalizations occurred; recommend using continuous play with known start and stop times of day.
4. the external microphones appeared to be sensitive enough to obtain decent recordings,
5. the camouflaged PVC containers were undisturbed and should effectively hide the recorders and still obtain useful recordings,
6. the recorders and camo containers could be quickly deployed
7. Possible vocalizations (howls), tree knocks, tree branch crashing and walkups suggest additional research is warranted, possibly adding timed call blasting and listening for responses next time.

[mp3 files to follow]

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 Post subject: Re: Old Sabine Bottom WMA - June 2012 - Site 1 audio tracks
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:20 pm 
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Site 1 audio tracks


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File comment: 3rd Walk-up and train whistle at the same time

08 Walk-up 3 and Train.mp3 [ 6.79 MiB | Viewed 21544 times ]
File comment: Site 1 - Loud crashing sound like a tree limb falling

03 Loud Crash.mp3 [ 645.95 KiB | Viewed 21544 times ]
File comment: First bipedal walk-up

04 Bipedal walk up.mp3 [ 645.95 KiB | Viewed 21544 times ]
File comment: Second bipedal walk-up

07 Bipedal walk-up 2.mp3 [ 3.94 MiB | Viewed 21544 times ]

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 Post subject: Re: Old Sabine Bottom WMA - June 2012 - Site 2 Audio Tracks
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Site 2 audio tracks


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File comment: Second series of howls

02 Howls 2.mp3 [ 1.71 MiB | Viewed 21544 times ]
File comment: One loud distinct tree knock

06 Tree Knock.mp3 [ 1.42 MiB | Viewed 21544 times ]
File comment: First series of howls

01 Howls1.mp3 [ 7.25 MiB | Viewed 21544 times ]

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 Post subject: Re: Old Sabine Bottom WMA - June 2012 - recorders and contai
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:49 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: therealsuperdave's Research
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Nice capture considering all the noises from the bugs. The sounds do fall within the generally accepted range of being a possible squatch between 500-1000 Htz.Below is a spectral image of the secomd set of howls.All of the howls fell into this range.

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 Post subject: Re: therealsuperdave's Research
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Awesome Dave!

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 Post subject: possible squatch vocalizations
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:34 pm 
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Thanks Tapemaster for the information. I kept thinking I could hear a "P" , like in the word "whoop". I will return soon to get more vocalizations. Will try again at site 2, where the howls were obtained, and another location that is deeper in the woods and further away from the river. Thanks for your comment too 3-GR.

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 Post subject: Re: therealsuperdave's Research
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Great stuff Superdave! For the others, Dave is researching the area that physically borders the land I researched early last year and I too had a walkup recording and found many tree markers. The area has tons of reports. No doubts on them being there I assure :)


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