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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:39 pm 
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Report # 12994 (Class A)
Submitted by witness on Sunday, November 06, 2005. Man observes creature walking across road
YEAR: 2005


MONTH: November

DATE: 03

STATE: New Mexico

COUNTY: McKinley County

LOCATION DETAILS: about 10 miles southeast of crowpoint nm on highway # 9 i belive it a bia road

NEAREST TOWN: Borrego pass nm

NEAREST ROAD: county road 19

OBSERVED: I was traveling southeast from crownpoint nm, on the eastern part of the Navajo Reservation. i was headed home as i was going through a small canyon (pass) in the head lights of the vehicle i observed a animal traveling east to west across the high way, it appears to about 6ft. tall and big, it was walking on two legs and went into a small gully i pulled the vehicle around and shine the light up the gully and i could not relocate the animal. due to the darkness and only seeing it through the head lights i could not make out the hair color it appeared dark.
i know the differents between deer and other animals and it was not one of them, i could not explain what i've seen.

OTHER WITNESSES: only I witnessed the sighting.

OTHER STORIES: No, none that I know of.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: it was dark, it was windy and it was 9:00 p.m.

ENVIRONMENT: dry, sand stone canyons some oak,pinion,and ceder trees forest.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Eddie Flores:

Spoke to witness and added the following:
- The animal was seen at a distance of about 100 ft or less with the hi-beams on.
- The animal was in sight for about 3-4 seconds.
- Witness pulled over and positioned his truck to look into the gully.
- Witness could hear rocks falling/rolling down the gully as the animal made its way up.
- While standing in front of his truck he heard a scream/roar that freighted him into leaving the area ASAP.
- Witness feels that the scream/roar was directed at him.
- The scream/roar lasted about 6-8 seconds and was very loud.
- Scream/roar sounded "like a gorilla" only higher pitched.

About BFRO Investigator Eddie Flores:

Eddie Flores is a state licensed Cosmetology Instructor in El Paso, Texas. He served as a BFRO guide/detective on the Mescalero Apache Expedition (January 2005). Click here for the expedition report.

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 Post subject: Re: BFRO McKINLEY COUNTY
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:41 pm 
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Report # 10266 (Class A)
Submitted by witness on Sunday, January 16, 2005. Witness sees unknown animal cross dirt road near New Mexico State Route 264
YEAR: 2002


MONTH: September

DATE: Sept. 17, 2002

STATE: New Mexico

COUNTY: McKinley County

NEAREST TOWN: Rocksprings,NM

NEAREST ROAD: Highway 264

OBSERVED: I work for (removed at request of witness). The headquarters dispatcher reported some customers were without water in the Rocksprings community. I responded and went up to the storage tank site which is located approximately 1 1/2 miles Northwest of the Sagebrush Bar. I checked the tank level and found them to be empty so I proceeded back towards Highway 264, the road to the tanksite is a dirt road. I was about 150 yards from the highway, the only light was from my unit's headlights shining straight down the road. My mind was traveling around the water system thinking about the scenarios that would be causing this water outage.About 20 yards from the truck I saw something walk out from behind a Juniper tree that is located on the west side of the dirt road. Right when it stepped out into the lights of the truck, it hesitated and it looked towards me,I stopped the truck at that moment. It then started to walk faster, picked up it's stride a little more. It took about 4 steps walking across that road, it did not cross the road in a straight manner, it crossed at an angle on the road and walked behind another Juniper tree that is located on the East side of the dirt road. I had stopped the truck as soon as it had stepped out onto the road, my visual contact time with what I now refer to as "the Creature" was about 15 seconds. I waited there to see if it would come back out or if I could see any type of movement, I did not see any. I sat there for awhile thinking,what did I just see ? My mind went through an elimination process, I thought, that was not a horse, a cow, a deer or an elk, 4 of the large animals that are prevalent in this area. The creature had a shiny brown hairy coat, it was approximately 7 feet tall, it's face was like a monkey's and the eyes were big and black, like a big teardrop shape. it's head was small and it came to a long point towards the back. The torso was skinny, narrow shoulders, the arms and legs were about 3to 4 inches in diameter, it had elbows and knees but I did not see any hands, fingers or a type of foot or toe structure. The hand and foot area were just rounded off, like nubbed. The only closest description would be like the way an amputee's arm or leg might look, rounded off.It took about 4 steps for it to cross the road,it's gait was long. I sat there about 30 seconds wondering if I should start driving forward towards the highway or turn around and use the other turnoff further west. Also at that time, a chill came over me and I hurriedly locked both doors, I did not even want to look out towared my side window because a fear had come aver me at that point. I just revved the engine and drove fast towards the highway. I drove fast down to the pumphouse and found the problem, it was a power outage to the wellsite. I had to go back to Ft. Defiance to pick up some fuses, I did not want to go back out to the area alone, so I had the dispatcher contact the Electric Line standby and I went back to the well along with him and I got the well back in service.
The next day, my co-worker and I went back to the site and found the footprints, he had a digital camera and he took some photos of the footprints. The footprints were about 4 to 5 ft apart, we tracked it to the East into the brush area. That night I went home and drew what I had seen and told my children of the incident.

ALSO NOTICED: None, I have a drawing and photos of the footprints on a CD.

OTHER WITNESSES: I was alone when the incident occurred.

OTHER STORIES: I have heard of a grandma that lives North of the storage tanks getting visits by a creature of some sort to her home. It chases the sheep around inside the corral and the nephew or some relative has shot his firearm in it's direction and it runs away.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 11:45 PM, Dark, no moonlight, clear skies

ENVIRONMENT: The area has some Juniper trees and alot of sagebrush. The road was packed dirt and the area off of the road is sandy, that was why we could see the footprints easily, The Sagebrush Bar is about 1/2 mile to the East of the location.

Follow-up investigation report:

I interviewed the witness in person on February 15, 2005. The location of the sighting is well known to me because of other activity reported very nearby in the fall of 2002 and in 2004. I also drive by the location several times a week. I revisited the location in late February after the interview in order to obtain a UTM reading for mapping purposes.

As a result of this interview, the following additional information was obtained from the witness along with clarification on several key observations:

- the hair on the animal was brown and the witness estimated the length to be similar to the length of a dog's fur.

- the animal very clearly turned its head toward the witness and glared at him while crossing the dirt road. The witness retains a very vivid image of its facial expression and remains unsettled by it to this day.

- the animal's mouth was small and its lips seemingly pursed. The face was "monkey like". It had less fur on its face compared to other parts of its body.

- the animal walked very much like the animal in the famed Patterson film - arms swinging with long steps.

- the witness did not see any details of the animal's hands or feet. The witness was struck by the appearance that they ended in stumps. I asked the witness how he could account for such an odd condition, and he indicated that the animal could have had hands and feet that simply were not clearly discernable in the dark of night during the relatively brief encounter. He also stated that the hands could have been cupped, thus appearing to end without fingers. The witness' sketch made immediately after the sighting clearly show hands and feet, though they are not portrayed in any detail. It seems likely that, in this case, basic hand and feet shapes were at least minimally discernable but that they did not stand out to the witness during this brief but stunning event.

- the witness submitted a sketch showing a thin animal much like the description provided.

- photographs of foot prints were taken the day after the sighting. Copies of these photographs are in the possession of the investigator. Unfortunately, sediment conditions are extremely poor for foot print retention in the area of this sighting. Local sediments are characterized by relatively deep, loose fine sand. The conditions were also quite dry during the period in which this event occurred. Accordingly, the prints appear as little other than circular intrusions into the dry sand which are partially covered by sand falling back in upon itself. No measurements of the tracks were taken by the witness.

The witness' description of the animal as being quite thin is worthy of brief discussion. The sketch provided to the investigator certainly supports this observation. The standard image of a sasquatch is one of substantial brawn, musculature, and weight. Yet many of the reports from the desert southwest and even some from other parts of the country confirm that these animals can and often do appear quite thin. A review of other formal and informal reports from the four corners area does confirm that a significant percentage of reports do portray thin animals. While there may be many explanations for this, it seems likely that one or both of the following two explanations apply. First, 2002 was a very, very dry year in the four corners area. So dry, in fact, that much of the permanent pinyon pine forested canopy died that year in the region surrounding this sighting. For large animals food and forage was quite scarce. Accordingly, it is possible that large animals such as a sasquatch could have been somewhat thinner than normal as a result the effect of this drought on the entire food chain. Second, it is reasonable to expect that, like humans, sasquatch come in all different sizes - short, tall, well muscled, thin, heavy, young children, sprawling teenagers, etc. Genetics and one's specific point in the growth life cycle surely produce sasquatch of a variety of sizes and statures. Our images of large, heavy sasquatch are understandably built upon the perception of an average. The animal in this case, although perhaps not meeting our expectations of the average, seems to fit well within the range.

Finally, it is worth noting that I am currently investigating at least three other reports from the fall of 2002 and 2004 that involve potential Class A and B sasquatch activity in this immediate area. The pattern of activity seems to suggest that one or more sasquatch frequent this specific area. Although the location is within a short distance from a state highway, the general vicinity is quite rural and is suspected as being a migration corridor for sasquatch and other large wild game. A small herd of elk is known to frequent the area. The seclusion of this specific area is augmented by the fact that it is bordered by a very large coal lease area that is protected from human intrusion and not subject to human settlement.

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 Post subject: Re: BFRO McKINLEY COUNTY
PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:27 pm 
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Report # 34460 (Class A)
Submitted by witness on Monday, March 12, 2012.
A large biped seen in headlights on a moonlit night in the Chuska Mountains
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YEAR: 2011

SEASON: Summer


DATE: 16

STATE: New Mexico

COUNTY: McKinley County

LOCATION DETAILS: We were on a dirt road, Indian Service Route 32, going South into the Chuska mountains. About 5-8 miles south of Indian Service Route 32, Hwy 134.

NEAREST TOWN: Sheep Springs, New Mexico

NEAREST ROAD: Narbona Pass, Indian Service Route 32, Hwy 134

OBSERVED: It was Saturday, July 16, 2011, about 12:30 a.m. early last Saturday morning. We were going to the Chuska Mountains on the Navajo reservation for a family reunion. We just left the main paved highway through Narbona Pass, Indian Service Route 32, Hwy 134, between Sheep Springs, NM and Crystal, NM. We went south on a dirt road, Indian Service Route 32, into the Chuska Mountains. we were about 5-8 miles into the mountains, when we came upon a small hill that curved towards the east, then to the south. As we approached the hill to go up, the road quickly turned right/south. As we reached the top, we saw the full moon and it lit up a flat green pasture that was on top of the hill.

As we made the turn to the right/south I noticed a big black figure standing. As I looked at it, it stood with the full moon behind it, so that all I could see was a black outlined form. I kept my eyes on the figure while making the turn right. I said to my wife, "Did you see that?!" She said, "What?" I said, "Something is standing over there by the road." As I looked, I noticed that the figure was standing by a small pond, which was about 10-15 feet from the road. I could see the figures reflection in the pond, along with the full moon.

I would say when I first saw it, it was about 75 feet away. As we got closer, our headlights turned to the right, away from the black figure, but I still could see it, because the moonlight was so bright. It just stood there, still, as if it was waiting for us to leave. I told her I was going to pull the truck onto the edge of the road. The road being dirt, and because of the rain, it had been plowed, so there was a ridge of dirt on both sides of the road. So, I pulled the vehicle, left towards the "Bigfoot" to flash my headlights on it.

As my headlights flashed the "Bigfoot" it turned. We could see the legs (two) turn, the arms (two) turn, and it started running away from us up a small hill into the trees. It was a quick smooth run, I mentioned to her that it ran, Ninja-like, smooth and stealthy. In less than 5-6 seconds it was in the trees. As it was turning and running, we didn't see any clothing, buttons shining from the headlights/moonlight, we saw a huge mass, a body running on two legs, we never saw any eyes. We noticed the legs and arms, and for sure it ran on two legs up the hill.
We were about 30 feet away from it when it ran up the hill. We could see that it was not a bear or human. It stood at least 7-8 feet tall. It was wider and taller than a person. After it ran away, we were in shock, we sat quietly in the truck, still for about 15 seconds. Then, all of a sudden my oldest daughter, screamed and said, "Daddy what was that." I was shocked that she was awake the whole time. I thought only my wife and I saw it. But, she was terrified, asking me, over and over, Daddy what was that. I couldn't say anything but tell her, it was a Bigfoot.
My wife and I aren't crazy nor are we believers of Bigfoot until now. In fact, we were the biggest skeptics. But we can't deny what we saw. I have to believe it because it was real.

My wife also admitted that she saw it too, as we first approached the hill, just like I did. She, just wasn't sure at the time if it was the same thing I saw. It was eerie and exciting at the same time. We also went back there on Sunday to look for tracks. There weren't any, the ground was extremely hard where it ran up the hill. Along the pond, we saw hoof prints from cows, dog prints, deer prints, no noticeably Bigfoot prints. By the way, the pond was only about 10-15 feet wide, it was just runoff of rain water, so it isn't always there during the year.
It seemed to me, that it was not wanting to be seen. I believe if I didn't turn my headlights towards him it would have probably stood there until we passed by, then it would have left. I think it was very intelligent. Because it watched us. And even before I could get the headlights turned onto him, he had already started to turn away from us. It had to have known what we were going to do next. That is probably why we didn't see any eyes.
I have lots of stories from my grandma about Bigfoot. She said they have been here since the beginning of time. And, that they were like us, living among us, until they saw "humans" start to fight among themselves. Then, they didn't want any part of us anymore, so they went into hiding. They, know that if they kill a human or make contact with one, they know that nothing good will come of it. So, that is why they stay in hiding.

ALSO NOTICED: After our encounter, we have heard a lot more people have witnessed Bigfoot in that same area. We also observed that the Bigfoot noticed us on the hill. It seemed to me that it stood still until it noticed we were turning towards it. Because it was already turning before our headlights shined on it. That is why we didn't see any eyes or face.

OTHER WITNESSES: Three, myself, my wife and my oldest dauther. We were driving late and we were all facing forward and all witnessed it together.

OTHER STORIES: Yes. I also heard that many more sightings have happened because of the fires in the Arizona mountains. I talked to a Navajo Nation Ranger, and he stated that a lot more deer, elk and other animals have migrated into the Chuska mountains because of the fires.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 12:30 a.m. early Saturday morning. There was a full moon out and the lighting was bright. It just finished sprinkling and the roads were damp.

ENVIRONMENT: The area was mountains, the exact place we saw the Bigfoot it was on a flat green pasture just above the tree line. Forest pine trees, the pool of water it was standing by was runoff from rain water.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator TF Zamiski:

I spoke with this witness by phone on 1/13/13.

There was a light rain falling as they drove toward the subject. With the moon shining through a break in the clouds they could see something was standing near a pool of water. As he turned his lights toward the subject it began to move. In the headlights they saw a dark brown hair covered animal turning away then running over the hill. The movement was like a person but very smooth and quick, in seconds it was gone. They sat and discussed what just happened then moved on, about three minutes had went by since they first saw it. The road they were on continued around the other side of the hill but too much time went by to see anything. They were compelled to return the next day to look for tracks in the daylight but unfortunately the ground was too hard.

This area is at about 8,960' with areas of clear meadows and clusters of trees just east of the Arizona border on the Navajo Reservation.

Being Native American and growing in this area he heard many stories about these animals but was always skeptical until this opportunity came along.

About BFRO Investigator TF Zamiski:

Tim is a residential Manager for an electrical contractor. He attended the 2006 Arizona Expedition and the 2006 Wisconsin Expedition. Tim helped organize the 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2012 Arizona Expeditions and the 2011 New Mexico expedition.

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