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Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  (BFRO) Fresno County

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Report # 18325 (Class B)
Submitted by witness on Wednesday, March 21, 2007. Possible sighting and howls heard by deer hunters in John Muir Wilderness

YEAR: 2006

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: October

DATE: 26

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

NEAREST TOWN: Shaver Lake

NEAREST ROAD: 168

OBSERVED: It was late October 2006. My hunting partner and I were deer hunting near Heart Lake, which is located off the John Muir Trail behind Florence Lake. We'd been back there for almost a week looking for the elusive Big Daddy Buck that we've hunted religiously for the last three years. We were high up on this ridge just before nightfall. We were hiking back to our base camp and heard a loud bellowing howl that sent a shiver down our spines. We looked at each other with confused looks on our faces, not knowing what that sound was. We decided to hurry back to camp, but we heard another howl, but closer this time. We saw Big Daddy Buck running down the opposite ridge side, and busting through brush, not caring if hunters spotted him. Then again, we heard that bellowing howl, and saw on top of the ridge a dark silhouette that looked like a bear standing on its hind feet. I brought my rifle scope to my eye to take aim on this so-called bear. As I looked through the scope, I realized it was no bear. I thought it could have been a really tall man in some kind of camouflage suit, but it looked like no man that I have ever seen. It ran down the hill and disappeared into the brush, like it was chasing the deer. So we decided to go and track down this creature. Once we arrived at where it was standing, there was a footprint in the dirt that made my footprint look like a child's footprint. It was four times the size of mine.

We never saw the creature again and never heard that howl, but then again, I've never gone back since then.

ALSO NOTICED: A dead female deer was found hung in a tree nearby. This could have been done by a mountain lion, but is interesting nonetheless.

OTHER WITNESSES: Just me and my hunting partner.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: About 6:15 pm in low light.

ENVIRONMENT: Mountain ridge, pine forest with creeks and meadows in the area.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Cliff Barackman:

I spoke to the witness by phone on 4/18/07. The following details can be added to the report:

• A howl was first heard at 6:30 or 7:00 AM. It was described as a deep, bellowing howl, rising and lowering in pitch in a bell-curved fashion, and lasting about 1.5 seconds.
• The encounter happened later that evening at approximately 6:00 PM on the ridge line north of Heart Lake.
• The creature was between 150 and 200 yards away when it was spotted.
• When it ran off downhill, it was going at least as fast as the large deer it was following, if not a little faster. Deer can run up to 35 miles an hour. It was due to the creature’s speed that the witness is absolutely positive that this was no man in a ghillie suit.
• The size of the creature is estimated at seven to eight feet tall, with a weight of at least 400 pounds.
• It ran with a hunched-over gait. It easily ducked under tree branches as it ran without losing speed. Its arms swung in a normal, human-like way as it ran.
• The footprint was more of an indistinct impression. Its estimated length was over 14 inches.

About BFRO Investigator Cliff Barackman:

* Bachelor of Arts Degree in Music (Guitar) -- Cal. State Long Beach
* Elementary school teacher in Los Angeles area for several years.
* Attended many public BFRO expeditions since 2005 (Redwoods, Sierras, Arizona, Southern California, Vancouver Island, Mendocino).
* Attended and/or led numerous non-public BFRO expeditions (CA: Bluff Creek, Blue Creek, Stanislaus NF; WA: Stevens Pass, Olympic Penninsula, Gifford Pinchot Nat'l Forest; Ohio: Beaver Creek; Florida: Green Swamp)
* Led the 2007 and 2008 California Sierra Nevadas Expedition (public), and the Oregon Expedition (public) in June 2008
* Can be reached at Oregon@BFRO.net


Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

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Report # 17458 (Class B)
Submitted by witness on Wednesday, January 31, 2007. Hikers describe possible stalking and vocalizations the John Muir Wilderness

YEAR: 2006

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: July

DATE: 14

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: You take Highway 168 east out of Fresno to Shaver Lake. In Shaver Lake, make a right on Dinkey Creek Road and follow the signs to the Courtright Reservoir. Go across the dam to the camping area. That’s where the 4x4 trail begins. Take the 4x4 trail for like half a mile until you reach the trailhead on the right. That will lead you to Hobler Lake.

NEAREST TOWN: Shaver Lake

NEAREST ROAD: Highway 168

OBSERVED: I would like to start with my background as a backpacker and hunter. I go to the Sierra Nevada Mountains about 1 and a half hours outside of Fresno, California. Last summer around the time of the sighting, I made about 11 trips to numerous places. This is what I do. I feel I have a good knowledge of the outdoors, and I have becomes quite at home in the wilderness.

On Friday, July 14, 2006 my friends, Jason and one other person who has asked me to exclude his name from this report, started out on a backpacking trip to Hobler Lake in the John Muir Wilderness. We started off our hike a little late in the day, about 5:00 pm, on the Maxsom trailhead, just on the east side of Courtright Reservoir.

We were hiking for about an hour, this being about 6:00 pm in the day. It was dusk when we noticed something moving parallel to us in the woods. It was hard to make out what it was because of the terrain consisting of dense wooded areas with evergreen trees. It had a reddish brown color, and in the distance you could tell it was much bigger than a person was. We assumed it was a black bear so we moved on.

Whatever it was seemed quite interested in us. Every time we stopped, it would stop moving as well. This continued for about an hour until it got too dark to see clearly without a flashlight.

We continued hiking to our destination for a while when I started hearing a crackling of branches to my left about 50 feet behind me, maybe less. When I turned around, I saw a black outline of something looking at me from behind a tree. I froze for a second because I was in such shock over what I was seeing. Out of all the animals I’ve seen at night in the mountains, this had no resemblance. It was standing on two legs, was about 7 and one half feet tall, and was 4 feet wide at the shoulders. It had hardly no neck, and very long arms that hung down by its mid legs. It also had a fluffy appearance like it had a thick long coat of fur.

Then I whispered to my friend Jason to shine a flashlight on it. As I said that, this thing must have heard me, because it turned around and started walking off somewhat fast. At this time we decided to load our firearms, which weren’t much because all we had was a 40 caliber pistol and a 22 pistol. For a time, whatever it was seemed to have left the area.

We arrived at Hobler Lake around 10:00 pm. We set up our camp, cooked some food, and rested for a bit. I finally fell asleep about 11:30 pm, but Jason and my other friend stayed up.

When I awoke in the morning, Jason told me that he and bob were by the lake having a cigarette when they heard large objects crashing in the water about 100 yards from them. He described it a like something very large was jumping and thrashing in the water.

The next day we were staying close to camp because of all that went on. We walked about away from camp to explore the area when we heard noise from camp like the clinking of pots and stuff. We ran back to camp to find nothing out of place, but when looked closer some things were slightly moved, but not very far away from where we left them.

ALSO NOTICED: This thing didn’t make hardley any sound at all. Only when moving through brush and tree branches could you tell it was around.

OTHER WITNESSES: 2 other witnesses. They were walking ahead of me in a line.

OTHER STORIES: People talk about long howls that can be heard sometimes, even from Courtright.

ENVIRONMENT: Pine forest, thick. There's a big rock moutain called the Maxsom Dome, that's where we first saw it.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Cliff Barackman:

I spoke to the witness by phone. The following details can be added to the report:

• While hiking, the group was followed by the large animal for more than one hour.
• The creature’s upper body was massive. The witness described it as having a “Mr. Olympia” build in its shoulders. The thighs were also commented upon as being very muscular.
• The hair color was reddish brown and matted into dreadlocks in some areas.
• The creature’s gait was smooth and quiet. It swung its arms in a human-like fashion, but slower.
• The witness was awakened at approximately 4 a.m. by a low-pitched series of howls. The howls were of varied lengths, some short and others long and drawn out.
• When gone from camp the next day, the items on the table appeared to have been shuffled around, but nothing was apparently taken from the area.
• The witness has invested a good amount of his own money into equipment to do more research in this and the surrounding areas.

About BFRO Investigator Cliff Barackman:

* Bachelor of Arts Degree in Music (Guitar) -- Cal. State Long Beach
* Elementary school teacher in Los Angeles area for several years.
* Attended many public BFRO expeditions since 2005 (Redwoods, Sierras, Arizona, Southern California, Vancouver Island, Mendocino).
* Attended and/or led numerous non-public BFRO expeditions (CA: Bluff Creek, Blue Creek, Stanislaus NF; WA: Stevens Pass, Olympic Penninsula, Gifford Pinchot Nat'l Forest; Ohio: Beaver Creek; Florida: Green Swamp)
* Led the 2007 and 2008 California Sierra Nevadas Expedition (public), and the Oregon Expedition (public) in June 2008
* Can be reached at Oregon@BFRO.net


Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

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Report # 12165 (Class B)
Submitted by witness on Monday, July 25, 2005. Camper hears nightime vocalizations near Florence Lake

YEAR: 2005

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: July

DATE: 23-24

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Jackass Meadow campground, on the outskirts of camp.

NEAREST TOWN: Huntington Lake

NEAREST ROAD: Kaiser Pass Road

OBSERVED: Camped at Jackass Meadow just below Florence Lake. I was tired from a long day of fishing and driving to Lake Edison, so I ate and fished a little more and retired for the evening. It was a full moon out and everything was really calm for a campground. I went to bed in my tent fairly early and woke up several times during the evening. Every thing was quiet and I got up to store my food in the bearboxes around camp. I didn't hear anything or see any thing when I was awake. I went back to bed and nodded off. I awoke again from my sleep to a noise that I had never heard in the mountains. It was late, and everyone to my knowledge was asleep. The noise was coming from the east of the campground i'd say approx. 1/2 a mile to a mile. I would say that it sounded the same as someone blowing through a conch shell mixed with and large mammal of some sorts. I heard the noise two times after I awoke in five second intervals, right after one another, and then silence. It was fairly loud and I knew that it was off in the distance because there was no other noise in the woods. I have been camping/hiking/and mountaineering all over the West Coast and I have never heard anything like that sound.

ALSO NOTICED: None

OTHER WITNESSES: asked two people I was with but they were asleep inside a car and didn't hear.

OTHER STORIES: Similar stories of noises from friends, but very few details.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: Late at night (1am-- 3 am). There was a full moon, clear skies, and no wind.

ENVIRONMENT: Dense forest, with sections of large granite boulders/mountains.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Cliff Barackman:

I spoke to the witness by phone on 7/26/05. The following details can be added to the report:

• The witness awoke several times during the night, but is usually a deep and sound sleeper. He heard the vocalizations after one of the awakenings.
• The witness is an Eagle Scout, and has extensive experience in the mountains.
• The two vocalizations lasted about three to five seconds each, with a pause of the same duration separating them.
• The vocalizations changed in pitch over their duration. It started at a lower pitch, raising the pitch slightly, and then went down again before tapering off.
• The witness said the calls had the same tone and pitch as the Ohio Howl, as heard on the BFRO website.


About BFRO Investigator Cliff Barackman:

* Bachelor of Arts Degree in Music (Guitar) -- Cal. State Long Beach
* Elementary school teacher in Los Angeles area for several years.
* Attended many public BFRO expeditions since 2005 (Redwoods, Sierras, Arizona, Southern California, Vancouver Island, Mendocino).
* Attended and/or led numerous non-public BFRO expeditions (CA: Bluff Creek, Blue Creek, Stanislaus NF; WA: Stevens Pass, Olympic Penninsula, Gifford Pinchot Nat'l Forest; Ohio: Beaver Creek; Florida: Green Swamp)
* Led the 2007 and 2008 California Sierra Nevadas Expedition (public), and the Oregon Expedition (public) in June 2008
* Can be reached at Oregon@BFRO.net

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

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Report # 9296 (Class A)
Submitted by witness J.D. on Thursday, September 09, 2004. Hunter has daytime sighting near Huntington Lake

YEAR: 2001

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: October

DATE: 25

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Near Keiser pass east side of sample meadow

NEAREST TOWN: Huntington Lake

NEAREST ROAD: Keiser pass road

OBSERVED: I was hunting at sample meadow above Huntington lake, I had just walked through a marshy area and had gotten into some dense pine trees when I spooked two deer up and I got a glimpse of them as they ran through the trees. I stopped and was motionless for a couple of minutes when I heard a loud expulsion of air and a branch snapped behind me in the thick pine trees I had never heard anything like that before so I froze and did not move, and about one minute later I heard the same sound from a little farther away and then the next time I heard it, it was closer and to the north, this happened about six times each time it was in a different location like it was trying to see what I was and scare me off. The last time I heard it sounded like it was right behind me and I flinched then it must have seen me I heard it running away from me through the trees making the same noise and breaking limbs as it was running off. I stood in the same spot for about five minutes and did not hear it again. I walked out of the woods to my truck where my dad was waiting for me and we drove about a mile down the road to a campsite to eat lunch.

At lunch I told my dad what happened and described the noise and he thought it might have been a buck grunting it sounded good to me since I never heard a buck grunt. So we decided that the buck might come back to that spot. So we ate lunch and drove back to the same spot. We hiked in and at the marshy part I told him to go in the direction that the deer ran to and I would try to spook them out again I waited for him to get out of site then I walked toward the pine trees, I got to the pines trees when I seen three does running in my direction toward the grove of trees in front of me, just before they got to the trees I heard the same noise again the expulsion of air and a branch break it spooked the deer two of them ran downhill and the last one ran uphill right at me it stopped within ten feet of me but it never seen me it was so frazzled by what it saw it stopped slowly turned around and tried to see around the tree to what had spooked it. It stood there for about one minute oblivious to me it then slowly turned around and started walking right at me it got within five feet of me then I flinched my arm so it would see me before it walked into me, it startled it so bad the deer fell down on its side did a spin on the ground and jumped up and ran the other way when it got around the tree and down about twenty yards I heard that noise again. The deer ran down and to the south and I seen it stop about 150 yards away through a clearing it would look at me then it would look at where the noise came from, it looked back and forth several times then it slowly walked away.

I then followed where the deer had ran to see what was making that noise I walked very slowly came around the tree and about thirty yards down the tree line I saw a large figure with black hair sitting under a large pine tree sunning, it had large shoulders four to six inch hair but you could still see the muscular definition of its chest and shoulders there was a fallen tree blocking my view below its waistline. But we locked eyes and stared at each other motionless, it had dark eyes I could not see any white, I could see the hair on its head blowing slightly in the breeze, I didn’t see any facial hair just a very dark skin face like an ape, after looking at each other for about a minute I wanted to get closer but the fallen tree was in my way so I took a step to my left to go around and when I got out of its site I heard it get up and bound through the trees making the same noise as it ran away from me the loud expulsion of air and breaking branches as it ran off.

ALSO NOTICED: I went back to the same general area one year later with my two kids and found about four large footprints in the dirt, you could make out the ridges of fingerprints. It had about a four foot gait.

OTHER WITNESSES: hunting partner was a couple hundred yards to the south did not see it.

OTHER STORIES: I have a hair sample from a different situation, found a mountain bike deep in the woods torn up by something teeth marks on the seet and bicycle helmet. and saw a large impresion that could of been a foot print three witnesses (2004).

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 11:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m.
clear sky, very cold 25- 30 degrees.

ENVIRONMENT: Leading up to the area the ground was swampy like the ground was saturated with water, then it turned to very dense pine trees. There is a creek within 100 yards.

Follow-up investigation report:

I talked with the witness by phone. The following details can be added to the report.

--The witness is a regular hunter.
--The witness saw the creature from about 30 yards and they stared at each other for several minutes.
--The witness got a good look at the creature from the waist up. The creature had large shoulders and large arms. It was covered in long black hair. Its head was round and its face flat. There was no hair on the face from the lips up. The face was leathery and ape like, and the skin was black. Its eyes were very dark.
--There was no smell of any kind.
--After the creature left, the witness went to the area where the creature was sitting and sat in the same location, trying to get a better feel for what the creature had been doing. After a few minutes, the witness then followed the creature a ways into the forest, but it got too thick so he left.
--The witness and his dad were supposed to stay the night that evening, but after the event, they decided to go home.
--Hair sample is from Kings Canyon/Hume Lake area and the witness is mailing it to me. I will update the report after the analysis is completed.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

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Report # 5418 (Class B)
Submitted by witness T. K. on Thursday, December 05, 2002. Hikers find footprints and hair near Huntington Lake

YEAR: 2001

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: September

DATE: 22

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Area is remote and very few hikers travel through this area.

NEAREST TOWN: Huntington Lake

NEAREST ROAD: 168

OBSERVED: There were three of us hiking through the rock creek area of the Ansel Adams Wilderness. Michael discovered the tracks and brought them to our attention. The tracks were heading in a northern direction across this large meadow. The tracks were eighteen and one half inches long and had a width of eight inches. Some of the tracks were up to three inches deep. The stride varied from four feet to six feet in length. There were over twelve tracks that were idenafiable. Then to our surprise we found a broken branch next to one of the footprints that had three hair samples clinging to the bark. We have no results from the hair samples because we lost two of the hairs and we only have one in our posession at this time.

ALSO NOTICED: No other incounters

OTHER WITNESSES: Three persons total, had just finished setting up our base camp

OTHER STORIES: None

TIME AND CONDITIONS: four o'clock,clear day with bright sunshine.

ENVIRONMENT: Location was in a large meadow in the rock creek area of the Ansel Adams Wilderness.

Follow-up investigation report:

I talked with the witness by phone. The following details can be added to the report.
--It had rained hard about 10 days before this discovery.
--Due to the rain, when the animal had walked through the area, the pine needles were pushed down deeply into the ground.
--The group looked for other human footprints in the area and saw none.
--One spot looked like the animal had sat down. The nearest twig was broken and that is where the hairs were found.
--The witness has photos of the footprints and "cheek" prints.
--The witness collected the hair and the BFRO analyzed it. It is not primate in origin.
--There is a water source close to this location.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

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Report # 1496 (Class B)
Submitted by witness V. S. on Friday, January 26, 2001. Cousins have late night experience with strange screams near Huntington Lake

YEAR: 1999

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: October

DATE: 20th

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: The area is located above Huntington Lake, further location details withheld at request of witness.

NEAREST TOWN: Huntington Lake

NEAREST ROAD: Kiser Pass Road

OBSERVED: My 15 year old cousin and I were walking in a medow below the ranch cook house. It was late october and the other ranch hands had left for the season, leaving my cousin and I to close up the ranch for the winter, there where no other people around the area. The summer backpackers had all gone. It was around dusk when we heard a noise, it started out as a low rumble, we almost felt it before we heard it. But it then rose in volume and pich. it was like a babbling scream. It could almost sound like words, the screem lasted at least 30 seconds or more then rose to a shreak and ended abruptly. It sounded as though it came from a point 50 or so yards from where we were standing, a thick grove of trees and deadfalls we call the island. I could hear something moving in the trees and starting to circle the meadow we were in. IT screamed again and sounded as though it had moved to our right. My cousin and I were shaken by the noise and we ran for the cook house. Sitting inside we heard it again and it sounded as though it was now in the medow below us, but the darkness made it imposible to see anything. At this time we moved from the cooks cabin to a building we call the winter room. We locked the door and spent the night there ( the room is bear proof and therefore safe). We heard it maybe five more times, around the ranch and once I was woken up at maybe three in the morning, by something outside our room. The next day I searched for tracks but the ground was frozen though it hadn't snowed yet. We found no tracks, but there was a hand print on the door of a store room where we keep food from bears during the summer. The print of the palm was nearly as big as both my palms put together, and the fingers where as big as three of mine in length (this thing had long fingers). The print was upside down near the bottom of the door as though it was trying to pry the door open from the bottom. (the print was still partily there next summer, At the time it seemed oily). I am twenty three. I have been backpacking and camping since I was five. I have grown up in the mountins and on the Ranch, I have heard mountin lions on more than one occassion, I have also heard a wounded bear screem (someone had shot it). The noise that my cousin and I heard was unlike any thing I have heard Ever. We call it the Yargle thing, and joke about it after the fact, but at the time it really scared us. (I don't scare easily we mountain men are from tough stock). I have heard and seen nothing since. This happend winter of 99.

OTHER WITNESSES: There were two witnesses, myself and my cousin. We were out for a walk in the meadow below the ranch.

OTHER STORIES: I have heard of no other incidents in this area

TIME AND CONDITIONS: Late evening, nearly dark, no snow but ground was frozen, 30 degres or so

ENVIRONMENT: Dence pine forest, small medows and river nearby

Follow-up investigation report:

I talked with the witness by phone and the following details can be added to the report:
--Sound was indescribable, but sounded like the sounds from the Sierra bigfoot recording.
--Doesn't think the creature was there for their trash since they ship it out by car and burn the rest.
--No one else at the ranch has had any other experiences.
--Has heard of other stories of sightings from the Sally Key Lakes and Ward Mt. Lakes areas.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 8868 (Class B)
Submitted by witness B. S. on Friday, June 18, 2004. Campers hear strange late night sounds near Florence Lake

YEAR: 1998

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: July

DATE: 1

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Kaiser Pass Road forks just above Mono Hot Springs. One side heads toward Edison Lake the other towards Florence lake. We were camping right along the road to Florence on a ridge just before the road drops down toward the lake. Maybe 2 - 3 miles from the lake itself.

NEAREST TOWN: Huntington Lake, Ca.

NEAREST ROAD: Kaiser Pass road

OBSERVED: My friend Greg and I had been fishing the San Juaquin river just below Florence Lake until about 6:30 or 7:00 pm. As we live in Clovis Ca. appoximately 70 miles away, we had decided we would just camp up there for the night. Kaiser Pass road is a narrow one lane road that traverses some very rugged area. It takes almost 2 hours to travel the 20 miles back to state highway 168 at Huntington Lake. So it is about a three and a half hour trip home. A trip that niether of us wanted to drive after a long day fishing, especially at night. As the area we were fishing in is notoriously bad for bears, we decided to drive to a camp spot that we were both familiar with just back up the way From Florence Lake. The camp spot is not in a campground, and is just a single spot off to the side of the road. But it is a well used spot by many people. We set up camp, had dinner, and had just sat down next to the campfire. The light of day was almost totally gone. We were sitting across from one another as we had both been taught to do when in the wilderness, so you can see if any animals are coming up from behind the other person. Gregs back was to the car and the road. My back was to a low rising granite out cropping, almost a dome like shaped out cropping that is flat on top. about 50 yards beyond that is a rather steep dirt ledge that goes up maybe another 25 feet above where we were sitting. I heard a noise that sounded like a horn on a train passing somewhere in the distance. I even said to Greg, do you here that train in the distance. he said yes , he heard it. We continued to hear it for a while, when suddenly it dawned on both of us that we were at 9000 feet in elevation, and there are no trains for about 70 miles. Now we were curious about the sound. And that is how I would best describe it, as the horn on a train in the distance. It was not an owl, I have heard many owls. As we continued to listen, it became closer, and became clear that it was over or on the ledge behind me. I moved to the car, and grabbed a 12 guage shotgun. The last time we heard it, it was extremely close to us, but still had that low mono toned almost horn like sound. Not knowing what we were dealing with, and not wanting to shoot someone or something, we called out a warning that we had a gun, just incase it was someone playing a prank. We did not hear the sound again. However, as we were both looking out toward the granite out cropping, and the ledge where the sound was coming from, we both turned and looked at each other at the very same time to ask if the other had just seen the same thing. We had, a pair of eyes glowing in the distance. Almost like cat eyes, but not yellow like cat eyes, they were more silver, or white. We only saw them for a second. Still not wanting to shoot at what I couldn't see, I fired a warning shot in the air. I didn't here or see anything after that, however, Greg insists he saw the eyes again, even after I fired the shot. Not wanting to find out what isn't afraid of a twelve guage, Greg threw all of our camping gear in the car as fast as he could while I stood guard with the gun. We dumped our entire jug of water on the fire, got in the car and drove all the way home. Niether of us said a word until we got back to town. I have been all over the mountains up in that area, and have been camping and four wheeling into the back country since I was a kid. That part of the Sierras is like my backyard to me, and I had never experienced anything like that. Bears, mountain lions, the rare badger sighting, but nothing like that.

ALSO NOTICED: We observed nothing after the incident, as niether of us has camped there since.

OTHER WITNESSES: only two winesses. My friend Greg and I. we were sitting by a campfire.

OTHER STORIES: I heard one story second hand. My aunt used to work for a dentist who would go deer hunting in the area. Supposedly, they were camped just beyond where we were at a place called Jackass Meadow. They had trailerd thier horses in, and had the horses out of the trailer for the night. They were to pack in to the back country the next day. Just as the sun was about to set, the horses, which aparently were tied up, became spooked. When the men looked around to see what was spooking them they noticed a tall figure, some distance away, standing next to a tree. The men were apparently also scared enough to leave, and camp elsewhere for the night. When they returned the next day, they went over to a tree that the figure had been standing by. They judged the height of the figure to be over seven feet tall by the bottom branch on the tree that had been just over the figures head. I didn't really take the story to seriosly at the time. I had heard it many years before my experience.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: Sun had just gone down, almost totally dark.

ENVIRONMENT: The ridge is not what I would call very densely wooded. however, as you go farther down the slope, sparse trees, and granite outcroppings give way to more dense stands of pines and manzanita brush.

Follow-up investigation report:

I talked to the witness by phone. The following details can be added to the report.

--The animal was close by, within several feet of the witnesses.
--Neither witness smelled anything or saw anything other than the “eyes”.
--The witness stated that it was hard to tell if the eyes belonged to the sound or not.
--The witness was very uncomfortable that his shotgun blast did not scare the animal away, and was the prime reason why they left the area.
--The witness still goes into the area, but hasn’t camped there since.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 865 (Class A)
Submitted by witness L.W. on Wednesday, December 06, 2000. Two 4-wheelers have night sighting above Huntington Lake

YEAR: 1997

SEASON: Winter

MONTH: December

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Occurred on Forest Road 80, on the road to Lake Florence, about 10 miles north of Huntington Lake.

NEAREST TOWN: huntington lake CA.

NEAREST ROAD: Forest Road 80

OBSERVED: I was sitting here listening to you on coast to coast and thought I'd tell you about an insident that happened in dec of 97. the location was in the sierra navada mountains about ten miles above huntington lake which is about 60 miles above fresno in central CA. Myself and a frind were fourwheeling on light, snow covered roads at about two am. we came around a corner and we both saw something run across the road. it had very long, shagy red hair and it was running on all fours. something like a gorilla would when charging. we only observed it cross the road when we apperently spooked it. we are both outdoorsman and have seen bears and the like befor. when it happened, we both simultaneously looked at each other said "what the hell was that?" and then said "we better not tell anyone or they'll think were crazy!" I can't swear to what it was, but I'll swear it wasn't a bear. this thing was the wrong color to be any kind of cat and it was to thin through the torso as compared to its overall size to be a bear and i suspect bears would have already been in hybernation. the hair looked like it could have been 18 inches long, very shagy. its body shape was like a giant human, not a cat or bear. unfortunately the animal never turned its face toward us at all.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: night time, but right in the headlights.

Follow-up investigation report:

I talked with the witness by phone. The following details can be added to the report:
--The sighting occurred in an area surrounded by the Dinky and John Muir Wilderness; in the Sierra National Forest.
--Clarification on the animal being on all fours: It appeared to the witness that it had been squatting in the middle of the road, and as the vehicle approached and caught it in the headlights, it took several steps forward and then started to straighten up to a standing position (on two feet), before it moved out of the light on the other side of the road.
--Estimated weight is 500+ pounds, but the creature was muscular, rather than fat.
--The creature was 3.5 feet tall bent over, so standing, it is estimated to have been around 7 feet tall.
--The creature's body, as it was bent over, was estimated to have been 3.5 feet long (from head to rear) and 10.5 inches thick (side profile of the chest). Its shoulders and arms were very massive and muscular, but the torso was narrow.
--The hair was the color of an Irish setter (red), and was 12 to 18 inches in length.
--No neck was apparent. It appeared that the head was just sitting on its shoulders.
--It moved very quickly across the road, very unlike a bear or other known animal.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 1068 (Class A)
Submitted by witness J. J. on Tuesday, January 02, 2001. Two fisherman have daytime sighting above Huntington Lake

YEAR: 1995

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: October

DATE: 29

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: above Huntington Lake, in the sierras, Mono Creek Campground.

NEAREST TOWN: Fresno

NEAREST ROAD: cant recall

OBSERVED: gentlemen, here is my account of what i remember. fresno, ca. 1995. mono creek camp ground. about 12 or 14 miles above lake huntington. in the sierras. myself, my fishing pardner, and another gentleman, were all fishing a small part of the river there, it was the last weekend of the season, before they close the roads, due to snow. about 3 miles down the river, my pardner decided he had enough, and stop to nap. this other gentleman and myself pushed on, maybe 3/4 of mile from where we had left my friend. i stop to fish a pool. the other guy dropped down to the next pool, to fish it, that is how we were working the differant areas. 1 guy would stop to fish a hole and the other would go right down below. as i was fishing my little stretch, i noticed the guy coming back up, he looked very excited and was waving for me to come there, i figured that he landed a good fish, or had seen a bear. he was almost in a frenzy, he just told me to hurry when i caught up to him he was looking over the edge of the next little drop off, i looked over and saw nothing unusual, he said it was right there, and jumped his way down to the spot, i followed, asking him what he had seen. before i could even get the words out of my mouth this smell, i cant explain to you what it was, wet, moldy, well animal, musk filled the air, nothing i have smelled ever was like this. my friend then told me that he had seen it, again before i could even ask above us i saw it, there standing no more then i would say 25 yards up the hill, was a the creature i believe to be a bigfoot. about 8 foot tall, covered in a reddish brown, and some what black hair, the face i remember it looking almost humanoid in appearance. it then turned and began taking huge strides up the mountain, not running, but covering some serious ground.on 2 feet. not 4. i tried to follow it, but again i felt an almost hynotic sensation over take me, and my pardner later told me he felt the same way, and i couldnt move, we watched it go right up to the top and over it. i felt very over whelmed, and did not say anything to my friend, we just walk in a silence back to our other friend, he could tell we were shooken up. but never let him in on what had just occured. to this day, when ever i think about it, i get overwelmed with emotion. when i got home i called the gentleman and talked to him about what we had seen, the feelings we went through were basically the same, when he saw the creature he said he could smell the smell i described, but not nearly as bad as when we came down to where it had been standing. then a strange feeling over took him as well, almost like we were hypnotized, or drugged. he has trouble now remembering what he looked liked, he can remember seeing it and the smell, but all other memeories are fading. i can tell you , i will never forget what he looked like, and have came to my own conclusions, i believe the smell the bigfoot emits can be used as sort of a defense system, let me explain, i believe when excited or scared the aroma he emits can actually work on a persons system, maybe for one, it makes you feel drugged, or for another it makes you feel hypnotized or just plain scared. the reason i feel this way, is like i said to this day, when i think about it, i am over come with emotion., i hope this might help in some small way, thank you for your time.

ALSO NOTICED: i did notice no animals, no sounds, no nothing, i had been saying that a couple miles into our trip down river, i always make sure to look for wildlife and there was none. and up there i always see and hear quite a few things. after the sighting a very tranquil feeling came over me, like it was going to be just fine. or a weird calmness. when ever i think about it, i cry, or become teary eyed. overwhelmed with emotion.

OTHER WITNESSES: 2 and he was fishing.

OTHER STORIES: never asked about any, never was told of any.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: about 2 p.m., very well lit canyon

ENVIRONMENT: small river winding down a steep, hilling, rocky, wooded canyon

Follow-up investigation report:

The following details can be added to this report:
--nearest road was Forest Service Road 80 (Kaiser Pass Road);
--campground is actually called Mono Spring Campground;
--nearest water is the San Joaquin River;
--height estimated at 7'10" to 8' tall;
--weight estimated at 500 pounds;
--hair on the face was greying; and
--footprint measured 17 1/4" in length and 2" deep.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 2961 (Class B)
Submitted by witness Cevin Q.(Cevqiut@aol.com) on Tuesday, January 12, 1999. Witness heard a large animal moving in the forest

YEAR: 1995

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: September

DATE: Late in the month

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: 65 miles east of Fresno California, on the Swamp Lake 4WD route. In the Sierra National Forest at an elevation of about 8000 ft.

OBSERVED: Several friends and I were riding our mtbs on the swamp route. There was about a 3-5 minute gap between each of us. As i ascended the trail I heard a large animal moving in the forest about 20 yards off the trail. I couldn't see it but could clearly hear it in the underbrush. As i proceeded up the trail one of my friends was in the trail looking at something. A set of very large footprints were in the trail. This was about 200 yards up from were i heard the noises. The track came from off the trail onto it and proceeded down the trail about 30-50. The subject walked a few steps the stopped and stood still moved a few more feet stopped as if listening. It proceedded down the trail a few more yards before heading into a small meadow. This meadow is very near the place i head the noises in the bush. The foot prints were in very deep silty powder and were very well detailed. I could see the lines in the sole of the foot the toes were very splayed and there was little to no arch. total lenght of the prints was about 14-15" as I could fit my whole foot shoe and all in the print. The track was liad down on top of the tracks of my friends who were about 5 min. ahead of us. A couple of bear hunters came upon us and we asked them what they thought, and they had never seen such a track. After loosing the track off of the road we proceeded with our ride. About one half mile up the road the track apeared again fromm off the road moving across the road going downhill toward the previous site of prints. The bear hunters also found the new tracks and tired to follow it but the brush was too thick.

ALSO NOTICED: It was very cold and the foot prints so large i doubt it was someone out walking around barefoot and we were several mile from the nearest road. It appeard that the individual was trying not to be seen. the tracks stopped and shuffeld arourd several time as though it was listening to us.

OTHER WITNESSES: We were on a very long mountain bike ride. The hunters were on there way to the high country

TIME AND CONDITIONS: It was early in the morning about 7:00am and about 30 degrees in temp.

ENVIRONMENT: The swamp route runs close to the Dinkey lakes Wilderness area. The trail is jeep trail. The area is pine forest with granite out croppings. There was a large granite outcop to the left of the first site and a small creek off the trail to the left. With a small meadow. The small creek feeds into Ruby creek. Nelson Mtn is to the east and Bear mnt. is to the north. elevation was around 8000"? Longitude.119'07'30" latitude about 37'04'0"

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 2960 (Class C)
Submitted by witness D. M. on Wednesday, August 25, 1999. Howling followed by speech-like vocalization heard

YEAR: 1995

SEASON: Winter

MONTH: February

DATE: Second or third Saturday of the month

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Huntington Lake, California

OBSERVED: In the distance a loud "howl" like sound was heard. At first we thought maybe a bear had been hit by a car. Each "howl" lasted approx. 15 seconds. After the 3rd or 4th time another sound began echoing around the walls of the valley we were in. The closest thing I can think of is someone speaking backward English through a megaphone. This lasted for around 5 minutes. The entire time none of us could make out a single word. Yet it sounded English. We basically figured that it was a crew of people looking for the animal making the first howl. Even though it was obvious that the original sound came from miles away. The first "howl" sounded very similar to a recording I heard on a page linked to BFRO's homepage.

ALSO NOTICED: As soon as the second sound began a couple of dog's across the lake started barking.

OTHER WITNESSES: 5 of us sitting on lawn chairs around camp. No fire.

I don't know if this does you any good. Basically last weekend for the first time since this occured, the five of us were together at a wedding. 3 of us remember hearing both noises, the other 2 only remember the "megaphone" sound.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: Around 11:00 p.m. It was close to a full-moon.

ENVIRONMENT: The lake was frozen. Maybe 3 feet of snow on the ground. One side of the lake has cabins, we were on the other side maybe 100 yards up from the shore. The lake is at 7,000 ft.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 11897 (Class A)
Submitted by witness on Tuesday, June 14, 2005. Three young adults encounter large aggressive biped while fishing the San Joaquin River

YEAR: 1991

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: June

DATE: not known

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: On the San Joaquin River

NEAREST TOWN: Mendota

NEAREST ROAD: Ashlan

OBSERVED: My story occured around 1991 on the San Joaquin River in what would be the northwestern part of town. Actually in Fresno. The area is mostly farm land and some sparse woods and vineyards. nothing like foresty though. My self, my cousin and a friend had decided to go late night fishing at a little area on the river where the river sort of pools. Their is a bridge there. It was late and we were sitting there and fishing when we heard something making noise and looked back and saw a coyote running across the bridge heading north. The coyote kept looking back as it ran as if it was frightened.The coyote looked at us but it was clearly focused on something behind it and it was scared. We thought at that time that that was odd. We then heard what we thought was a splash as if someone had dove into the water behind us. It was dark so we just glanced back but of course saw nothing. We probably sat for about 10 minutes or so when suddenly there was a huge goosh and splash about 25 yards away in front of us. We stopped fishing and then tried looking into the darkness.This small boulder throwing continued at least 2 more times before we actually saw a dark figure about 40 yards away standing what looked about waist high in the river. Their was a full moon so it wasn't to dark to see that it was a pretty big creature. By this time we were starting to get scared and were pretty much froze in place and had began to yell at it, thinking that it could be a person. This prompted my friend to yell threats of violence as young people are sometime prone to do, this creature basically turned it's whole body to the right of it and grapped another boulder and with both hands over its head it threw it at us, this one landed about 15 yards away. It made no sound or noise only threw small boulders. It threw about 2 more boulders the last landing about 5 yards from us enough to splash water on our faces. By this time we had reeled in our lines and were trying to get out of there as fast as we could. We ran all the way back to the car which was through some trees across a field and up a hill. We went back the next day to the area and on rafts floated to the area where the creature had stood. My friend is about 6 foot tall and jumped in the water to see about how deep it was. The water came to his shoulders. Their was no way this was a man. We even saw some of the boulders that had been thrown at the bottom of the water as it wasn't more then 5 1/2 feet deep. Their was a sand bar and the boulders were at least 30 to 40 lbs.

OTHER WITNESSES: 3 total

OTHER STORIES: no

TIME AND CONDITIONS: about 1am in the morning. full moon.

ENVIRONMENT: mostly farm land, no houses for about 7 miles or so. scattered trees. vineyards. nothing real dense. river flows pretty good on this part.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Bart Cutino:

Following a long phone interview with the witness on 7/10/05, these important details should be added to this report.

- At the time of the incident the witnesses, ages seventeen to twenty-one, were fishing for catfish during a full moon under the north side of a bridge about fourteen miles west of where Highway 99 meets the San Joaquin River. The area is in close proximity to several small to large sloughs and a wildlife refuge, which contains an abundance of fish, waterfowl, small mammals and reptiles.

The observed coyote’s frightened and strange behavior reminded the witness of a previously viewed program that discussed and showed visual examples of animals’ “flight instinct” from other predators.

In response to the three young adults shouting and yelling, the large “dark figure” was seen pivoting to its right and picked up what appeared to be large boulders from the sand bank directly behind it and began tossing them “hands over head” in the witnesses’ direction. The witness believes the subject's increased hostility was a direct result of being shouted at. At no time did the subject respond vocally or attempt to shorten its distance from the witnesses.

Although no facial features were observed during the encounter, the witness emphasized both the large size and broad stature of the subject. In addition, the witness perceived the figure to be hair covered due to both its dark color and what appeared to be “shiny, wet fur” slightly animated by moonlight.

While departing, the witnesses’ felt extreme fear and anxiety. The witness was insistent that he and his two companions experienced several tense moments while trying to reach their car. They were literally “climbing over each other” while having to negotiate a narrow single-file path in the back end of a vineyard before reaching a clearing.

The next day, the witness took both his 6’2 friend and future wife rafting to the spot where the subject was observed waist deep in water. The alleged creature appeared to have waded where the river narrowed on a corner in 5 ½ ft. deep water. This particular pool of water reached the bottom chin of the 6’2 friend. After seeing this comparison, the witness estimated that the subject witnessed the previous night reached a height of between 8 ½ and 9 ft. Several clean boulders, weighing in excess of 30 lbs. were found laying on the river-bottom where the witness saw the huge splashes the night before.

About BFRO Investigator Bart Cutino:

Part owner of the "world famous" Sardine Factory (Restaurant) on historic Cannery Row, Monterey, CA & Wealth Management Consultant for the NCW Group in Monterey, CA, Bart Cutino has been an enthusiast of large "unrecognized" North American primates for over 28 years.
Is part of CA-BFRO contingent "crew" and has attended/assisted every CA state field effort since joining the organization in 2004.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 3605 (Class B)
Submitted by witness J. W. on Sunday, January 06, 2002. Three teenagers hear vocalizations at dusk, while fishing in Doris Lake in John Muir Wilderness

YEAR: 1984

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: August

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Doris Lake is located about 1.5 miles from the Mono Hot Springs Resort

NEAREST TOWN: Mono Hot Springs Resort

NEAREST ROAD: Highway 168

OBSERVED: My story of Bigfoot was not visual but rather we heard a scream in the deep forest that we could not explain.

The location was in the area of Mono Hot Springs, in the Sierra Nevada's in California, specifically, the John Muir Wilderness.

My brother friend and I were fishing at Doris Lake near dusk. Doris Lake is roughly a mile and a half hike from the resort of Mono. Nothing unusual was happening and then out of nowhere, we heard a scream come from across the lake and up in the Mountians. There were no people or animals that we could see anywhere. We were in the proverbial wilderness. My brother and I looked at each other, and unable to readily discern what we were hearing we continued to fish. I did say to him, if I hear that again I am out of here. Well, a minute or so later, the same scream. The three of us immediately reeled in and began to run all the way back to the resort, without stopping.

I have listened to various recordings of alleged Bigfoot, and I am struck by how similar these recordings are to the scream that we heard. I did not see anything, so I cant be sure, but I am fairly certian what I heard was not a human, bear or mountian lion. So....what could it be?

Note: my brother and sister worked for several years at Mono Hot Springs. My sisters good friend who worked their as well had a horse which she kept in the summer time at the springs. While riding in the back country, she claims to have seen Bigfoot walking through a meadow below a bluff she was riding atop.

OTHER WITNESSES: 3 of us heard the screams.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: Dusk (7:00 p.m.)

ENVIRONMENT: Doris Lake in the John Muir Wilderness

Follow-up investigation report:

I talked with the witness by phone. The following details can be added to the report:
--Witness was 16 at the time, brother was 17 and friend was 15.
--No one else was on the trail or at the lake.
--They used the trail that circles the lake and fished on some big rocks.
--Screams were extremely loud and angry. Seemed masculine and adult.
--First scream lasted for at least a few seconds; second came about one minute later and also lasted for a few seconds.
--Scream came from directly in front of them (across the lake/North) and was about ¼ mile away.
--Felt that whatever was screaming could see them (but he didn't feel watched), and that the screams were probably aimed at them to leave the area.
--They knew it was not on the lakeshore, because they would have seen it. It must have been above the lake, above the trail, in the dense forest.
--The screams scared them badly, and after the second one, they took in their fishing lines and ran all the way home.
--Unless his sister had told him about the other Bigfoot story, he would never have associated the screams with Bigfoot.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 4929 (Class B)
Submitted by witness P. L. on Friday, September 13, 2002. Teenager hears unusual daytime vocalization near Courtright Reservoir

YEAR: 1981

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: August

DATE: 1

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Provided in the main part of my report

NEAREST TOWN: It might be Shaver Lake, but it is hard to tell. At any rate, we were a very long way from Shaver Lake or any other town, up in the mountains. We parked the car at Courtright Reservoir.

NEAREST ROAD: Courtright Road -- the road that leads to the dam at Courtright Reservoir.

OBSERVED: In late August of 1981 I heard a distinct distant wailing animal call similar in character to some of the recordings posted on the BFRO website. I was backpacking with two other people in California's Sierra Nevada mountains, near the northern boundary of Kings Canyon National Park. About a year later I wrote down a very detailed description of the event. I have always wanted to report this to some appropriate organization, so now that I have found the BFRO site, here it is.

I was 16 at the time of the event. I am now 37. The following is a refined version of a description I wrote one year after the event.

I was on a backpacking trip with two family friends who were about my parent's age. Our destination was the Devil's Punchbowl in California's Sierra Nevada mountains which is about a 19-mile hike on good trails from the parking lot at Courtright Reservoir. [You can find a topo map of the area at http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=11&n= ... =50&size=m] The first night we camped at a place called Long Meadow. The second day was a long hike to Fleming Lake (elevation about 9600 feet,) where we made camp just before sunset. Our camp was at the northeast corner of the lake, about 50 yards from the shore, up against a low, steep granite slope. We were the only people camped at that lake that evening. The two adults set about making dinner, and I went fishing at the lake since the fish were jumping vigorously. I started at the point on the lakeshore that was closest to the campsite and worked my way around the north edge of the lake towards the west. It was starting to get dark, the wind was virtually calm, and it was so quiet and peaceful that I could clearly hear occasional sounds from camp about 100 yards away: talking and the clinking of cookware. I was really focused on the fishing since I was very eager to catch something before it got too dark.

I was changing a lure when I heard the sound. It was a distant wailing coming from the north/northeast, up a broad open valley, to my left. Fleming Creek runs through this valley. This call is very hard to describe, but one could describe it as human- or primate-like in its smooth, round character. The call was broken up into segments that rose and fell in pitch. Each segment lasted about 1.5 seconds and each followed immediately after the one before it, like "oooOOo, oooOOo, oooOOo" with the pitch and volume rising in the middle of each segment and trailing off abruptly at the end. There were about six segments in the call, making the total call length about 10 seconds. The sound was somewhere between an "oooo" and a "wow" sound.

I froze immediately upon hearing this. It did not really scare me, but it commanded all of my attention. I heard it very clearly though it was faint and obviously far away. I would guess its origin could have been anywhere from one to two miles away, up the valley to the north/northeast. As I said it was very calm that evening and sound carries far in conditions like that. The call stopped after the first six "oooOOo" segments, and I immediately and very consciously decided that I was hearing things and ignored it and went back to working on my lure. Then I heard it again and there was no ignoring it. There was a total of five or six very clear, distinct calls made up of about five or six "oooOOo" segments each. The entire event lasted maybe 45 seconds or a minute.

Once the second call started I stopped what I was doing and listened very carefully as the call repeated. I was definitely not hearing things. It was not the wind, since the breeze was barely a whisper. I was in an open meadow with a lake immediately in front of me and a tree-covered granite mountain behind me. The sound was not echoing, as there was nothing for it to echo against, and the sound did not trail off as it repeated as an echo does. It started and stopped very deliberately.

This spooked me and I packed up all my fishing gear and went back to camp. I told the others that I had heard an animal call of some kind and asked them if they had heard anything but they had not. My guess is that the sound was masked by the noises from their own activities and the steep but low granite slope behind them. I forced myself not to think about it much, since we still had four nights to spend out there and we were headed deeper into the mountains. I did not hear, see, feel, or smell anything unusual for the rest of the trip, though I was pretty keyed up and attentive after that.

Regarding the quality of the sound:

About a month after I got back from the trip I read in John Green's book "On the Track of the Sasquatch" the description of the Puyallup recordings from 1973. It describes very well the quality of the call I heard: The unidentified noise is not an "eeeee" scream, but more of a long "whooOooOooOoo" or "whoopwhoopwhoop" at a high pitch and with immense volume. Heard from a distance it can be compared with the sound of a siren far off but it definitely is not that. When I first read that I got chills all over and I felt a little shocked, since that is an extremely good way to describe what I heard.

I recently found your website and listened to all the supposed Sasquatch sound recordings, and the sound I heard could easily have been made by the same source. But the sounds on your website are mostly long wails or howls, and what I heard undulated up and down fairly rapidly. The voice itself sounded like a cross between the 1973 Puyallup sounds and the 1993 Del Norte County "angry Bigfoot" scream. But what I heard did not sound in the least threatening. In retrospect, it seemed as if the caller were simply announcing to everyone that it was present. Though there were multiple calls, they all seemed to come from the same source, from the same direction. I did not hear anything that sounded like an answer.

To my mind there is no way this could have been a person unless they were playing with an amplifier. The noise was obviously far away and I find it hard to believe anyone (short of an opera singer) could project a call like that over such a distance. There were not that many people out there anyway. Since then I have heard coyotes, owls, horses, donkeys, grouse, and other animals in the wild, and they don't sound anything at all like what I heard. I have never to my knowledge heard a cougar, so I guess that is a possibility. I have heard that there could have been elk in that area, but I have listened to several elk bugles on the Web, and none of them are remotely like what I heard. Those elk recordings sound like someone trying to make a sound on a saxophone for the first time (dry and squawking), and what I heard had a very smooth "primate" quality.

ALSO NOTICED: As we approached Fleming Lake, the trail followed Fleming Creek which was maybe 100 feet below in a ravine. The bottom of the ravine was thickly covered with brush and trees. Down in the ravine we all clearly heard what sounded like a person or a large animal moving at a walking pace downstream (opposite direction of us.) It sounded like someone moving through thick brush and occasionally breaking branches, not even trying to be quiet. Later, my guide told me she thought it was a bear, since she had experience with them in this area before. To this day I have no reason to think otherwise.

OTHER WITNESSES: No other witnesses. The other two in my party did not hear the sounds, though if they had been standing where I was I am certain they would have.

OTHER STORIES: There are several other reports in your online database from this general area. I read a report on some other bigfoot-related website about three years ago that described a virtually identical call at the same time of day from the same general region on approximately the same date, but I have not been able to find it again. I was really surprised to read that report, since it could even have been the same incident reported by someone else.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: Maybe 7:30 in the evening. Dusk. Clear, calm. Not even enough wind to cause ripples on the water. It had been a warm day. Nights were relatively cold, with temperatures dipping to just below freezing. It was dry, since it was late in the year. There was not a lot of water in any of the creeks.

ENVIRONMENT: High Sierra conifer forest, near the treeline. Fleming Lake is at about 9600 feet. Lots of forest interspersed with cold lakes and meadows. Snowfields present on the shady side of many of the peaks. Very rugged and remote, though back then the area got a fair amount of backpack and pack horse traffic. We saw lots of bear and deer prints in the area.

Follow-up investigation report:

I talked with the witness by phone. This report is very thorough. The only information that can be added is that the witness believes that the vocalization may have come either from a female or a young male.

This type of vocalization has been noted before. It could be speculated that opposed to being a territorial "scream," this may have been a location call, intended to let other bigfoots in the area know where he/she was.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 2996 (Class B)
Submitted by witness Larry L. on Sunday, August 16, 1998. Two campers find a 17 inch footprint near their camp

YEAR: 1973

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: September

DATE: 1

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: This incident occurred in California's Sequoia National Forest, the eastern part of Fresno County, along the North Fork of the Kings River, between the Black Rock and Lily Pad camp grounds, below Wishon Reservoir at about 37" north and 119"east. The actual footprint sighting was on a lower bluff inside a pool of wet sand about 100' below the canyon rim and about 800 feet above the river.

OBSERVED: The late Vanwedigen and I were going fishing along the river over the Labor Day weekend. While back packing in along the forestry trail leading down to the river, we missed a trail marker and wound up at night along the canyon rim. We made camp on a bluff slightly below the canyon rim. I didn't sleep well that night. I had a feeling I was being watched and was uneasy. Breaking camp the next morning, Van went for water coming from an artesian spring in the wall of the canyon. He found one very clear bigfoot footprint in the wet sand below the spring, about 80 feet from where we'd camped. He called to me to come over and see. My first reaction was this was a hoax. Van and I examined the footprint in detail. It was about 17 inches in length, with 5 clear toes and pressed down about 2 1/2 inches in the sand. There was a musty smell in the area but this wasn't overpowering. Van concluded the print was real based upon the fact it had rained hard the previous morning and you could see the pattern of the rain drops on the surface of the sand except where the footprint was. Also whatever had the print may very well be slightly above us at the end of the bluff in some rock outcroppings. He suggested we get out of there while the getting was good. Van had grown up in Minnesota hunting and fishing with his dad and brothers. I decided we should take his advice. We left and back tracked to Van's Toyota Landcruiser. We went over to Bass lake to fish for the rest of the weekend.

ALSO NOTICED: The Forestry Service refused to discuss the incident and was unaware of anything else in the area.

OTHER WITNESSES: Breaking camp.

ENVIRONMENT: This area is around 4500 to 5000 feet in altitude and is covered primarily with conifer forest with some very heavy underbrush in areas. The trails through it are generally good and the terrain is somewhat rocky but passable. A slanted chimney goes down to the bluff which runs parallel to the canyon rim. The bluff is about 200 yards in length and has a few trees, some brush and rock out croppings. It drops off to the canyon below.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 2876 (Class A)
Submitted by witness on Saturday, March 29, 1997. Sighting by a Backpacker Near Bullfrog Lake

YEAR: 1968

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: July

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

LOCATION DETAILS: Approx. 100 yards east of Bullfrog Lake, at 10,500 ft. elevation, while on a backpacking trip in the High Sierras of California. From the map I just checked I believe it would be Tulare County because we were backpacking out of Onion Valley and had gone over Kersarge Pass to Bullfrog Lake.

OBSERVED: I was about 100 yards from our camp when I spotted what I thought was a cub bear looking around the camp. This was in broad daylight, around 3 in the afternoon.

What really caught my attention was the concentrated interest this cub bear was paying to my backpack in particular. I stood in one place for about 2 minutes watching this sight from 100 yards when this "cub bear" stood up and began to walk away.

At 18 years of age I couldn't force my mind to accept what my eyes were telling me. I watched the baby bigfoot (approx. 4-1/2 ft. tall) walk away from me into the trees for probably a full minute in duration. It disappeared into the trees at a distance of approximately 200-250 yards from me. It's arms swung like a person and walked with a smooth gate, not at all like a chimp or gorilla.

The hair was standing up on the back of my neck and I had a sense that I was witnessing something unnatural. I didn't tell anyone this incident until recently.

OTHER WITNESSES: Hiking back to the camp area.

OTHER STORIES: None.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: The year was 1968. Early July. Clear weather. Small patches of snow still around.

ENVIRONMENT: Basically flat terrain, approx 100 yards east of Bullfrog Lake and approx. 10 yards north of a small stream feeding Bullfrog Lake.

Author:  Creekfoot [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Media Article # 541

Saturday, October 13, 2007

[BFRO Investigator in Cent. CA - David Raygoza]

By Anne Dudley Eillis
The Pueblo Cheiftan Online


FRESNO, Calif. - What’s David Raygoza’s idea of a good time? A full tank of gas in his Jeep, fresh batteries for his video camera and a bag of apples for bait.

Bigfoot bait.

Raygoza, 49, is an award-winning principal at Central Unified’s Pershing Continuation High School west of Fresno, Calif. But for 14 years, he’s also had a secret hobby: tracking Bigfoot in Sequoia National Forest in the southern Sierra Nevada.

Raygoza admits his belief in the legendary creature makes him sound crazy.

‘‘It’s one of those things that you don’t talk to people about. I think mainstream America looks at it like UFOs or ghosts,’’ Raygoza said.

Also known as Sasquatch, Bigfoot purportedly is covered in hair and stands 7 feet tall. The creature roams remote forests, with most sightings concentrated in the Pacific Northwest, from north of Eureka, Calif., to British Columbia, said David Byrne, a high-profile Bigfoot hunter.

Raygoza had kept a low profile on his Bigfoot convictions until July, when he led a symposium on the creature in Hanford, Calif. Raygoza has several photographs of large footprints he believes could be from Bigfoot, as well as video he says shows glimpses of the creature. He said he once found an old nest Bigfoot may have used.

Raygoza’s interest in Bigfoot dates back to his senior year at Riverdale High School, when he read a newspaper article about a 17-year-old student in the Bay Area planning a Bigfoot hunting expedition.

‘‘I thought, ‘Wow. What a bold thing to do,’ ’’ Raygoza said.

Then, 14 years ago, while camping with a friend in the Sierra east of Fresno, Raygoza came across 17-inch footprints he could not identify. A science teacher at the time, Raygoza was hooked on tracking Bigfoot.

But he found no further evidence for 10 years: ‘‘I was really beginning to believe there was no such thing.’’

A chance meeting with a man in Coarsegold, Calif., at a gold-panning exhibit four years ago piqued his interest again. The man, an American Indian, said Bigfoot roamed an area near an old sweat lodge in Sequoia National Forest. He told Raygoza: ‘‘If you go there, you’ll find what you are looking for.’’

Raygoza and a friend made a trip to the location and found several sets of tracks Raygoza thinks were from Bigfoot. Over the past four years, he’s videotaped what he believes may be Bigfoot in the forest, although he admits the images are inconclusive.

‘‘Is it definitive? No, of course not,’’ he said.

Raygoza said he once filmed Bigfoot eating an apple he had put out as bait.

Stephanie Martin, a counselor at Pershing High, said she ‘‘didn’t have words’’ when she learned last summer that her boss believed in Bigfoot. She prefers not to discuss it with him; she said his stories sound credible, and she is scared by the idea that Bigfoot may exist.

‘‘I know it sounds kooky and crazy, and (Raygoza’s) obviously not,’’ Martin said.

Terry Cox, president of the Central Unified School District board, had not heard of Raygoza’s Bigfoot tracking but isn’t bothered by it.

She said she and her sons, now grown, have always enjoyed the Bigfoot legend. Her children belonged to Indian Guides when they were young and participated in several Bigfoot hunts.

One of the Indian Guide mothers made a Bigfoot costume that an older guide wore, running through the woods, allowing the younger guides glimpses of ‘‘Bigfoot.’’

One year, they forgot to bring the Bigfoot shoe coverings, so the creature ran around the forest in silver basketball shoes, Cox said.

Raygoza declined to be specific about where he searches in the Sequoia National Forest, saying that he’s worked hard tracking the creature and wants to be the one to come up with indisputable evidence that Bigfoot is real.

He has plenty of company hunting Bigfoot.

Byrne, the Bigfoot expert, has led three expeditions since the 1960s, outfitted with helicopters and infrared sensors. The work of Byrne and two other Bigfoot aficionados is part of a yearlong exhibit that opened last week at the State Capital Museum in Olympia, Wash., examining Sasquatch as a cultural phenomenon in the Northwest.

Several Web sites are devoted to the legend. The Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization lists hundreds of sightings, separating them into Class A or Class B reports. The organization says that Class B reports are not considered less credible or less important, but they have more potential to be something other than Bigfoot, such as bear sightings or practical jokes.

Byrne, though a believer, says that ‘‘90 percent of what we think we know is pure speculation. There’s no experts. We’re all students.’’

There are too many eyewitnesses to discount Bigfoot’s existence, Byrne said: ‘‘These are really good, down-to-earth people with no reason to fabricate a story.

‘‘I think there could be something out there.’’

But Denise Alonzo, a spokeswoman for Sequoia National Forest, is more skeptical. She’s worked in the area for 20 years, and ‘‘I’ve never heard or seen anything about a Bigfoot in the forest.’’

Stephen Lewis, chairman of the earth and environmental sciences department at California State University-Fresno, said that if the creature existed, trackers would have found ‘‘Bigfoot poop’’ and other forensic evidence.

His department offers a critical thinking course, ‘‘Facts, Fads and Fallacies in the Natural Sciences,’’ which explores the pursuit of mythical creatures such as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster.

‘‘My speculation is that people have a need to believe in magic and mystery, unexplained phenomenon,’’ Lewis said. ‘‘People enjoy the idea that there’s something out there that is mysterious and not yet discovered. They get captivated by all this stuff.’’

Raygoza is not bothered by the skepticism.

He said he’s enjoyed not only the pursuit of Bigfoot, but the beautiful wilderness he’s explored.

‘‘I’m going to continue looking until I get that shot that is definitive, where people won’t say, ‘That’s a bear,’ or until I can’t walk those hills,’’ Raygoza said.
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Author:  Darkwing [ Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 48429 (Class A)
Submitted by witness on Tuesday, April 14, 2015.
Travelers have a nighttime sighting of two hairy bipeds on Hwy. 180 near Grant Grove
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YEAR: 2014

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: August

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

NEAREST TOWN: Grant Grove

NEAREST ROAD: 180

OBSERVED: My wife and I were driving at about 9:30 p.m. Between Grant Grove and Cherry Gap on highway 180, when we came around a corner and our headlights lit up the straight away and next corner about 100 yards away and at the next corner we saw a large hairy figure walking upright as it stepped onto the road at an angle towards us and it took large strides and crossed the road and went down the embankment. It was very tall with dark hair. I have other observations about the sighting but I was afraid I couldn't get it all done in the aloted time.

OTHER WITNESSES: My wife

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 9:30 p.m. Dark

ENVIRONMENT: Pine forest

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Bob Collier:

On 05/16/15 at approx. 9:45 PM I conducted an interview with the witness by telephone. The witness is fifty years old where he is employed as a building inspector and lives locally in the central California area. He is also an avid outdoorsman and hunter. The witness stated in July 2014 (unknown day) at approx. 9:30 in the evening he and his wife were driving to Hume Lake California to meet some friends for an overnight trip. The witness was driving a four door Saturn compact vehicle, where his wife was seated in the front passenger seat. The witness and his wife were driving on the two lane mountain highway 180 near a Cherry Gap. As they turned on a right hand corner area of the highway, the vehicle headlights illuminated two figures walking down the right hand hillside approaching highway 180. The witness stated the figures were approx. 100-150 yards ahead of them. This observation of the figures caused the witness to slow his vehicle, because he did not expect to see anyone out on the road at this time of night.

The witness stated he observed the first figure to be very large, and walking on two feet, followed by a shorter figure also walking upright on two feet. The witness estimated the shorter figure to be approx. four to five feet tall with light color hair covering its entire body. The witness described the short figure to have a shorter leg stride, where it was trying to keep up with the larger figure who was walking in front of it. The witness stated the larger figured was approx. eight feet tall and its body was covered with hair as well. The witness observed the large figure to have long arms which swung from front to back as it walked. The witness stated his observation of both figures lasted for approx. three to four seconds, where they both walked to the other side of the road and down the embankment. The witness stated the figures walked down in to an area called Millwood Flats. The witness has hunted this area in the past, and he said the entire area is dense forest.

The witness also stated the figures he and his wife saw were not bears walking across the road. He stated the legs and arms were too long and the stride was very human like in comparison, but much longer. I asked the witness if there were any pedestrian traffic on highway 180 during this time, and he said there was not. The witness emphasized this part of the highway was considered a mountain road, and he has never seen anyone walking out on this highway at night. The witness further stated he believes the two figures were not people, because the figures did not have flashlights or headlamps and both again were covered in hair.

During my interview I found the witness to be very credible and knowledgeable about the area described. He has been to the Hume Lake area on multiple occasions throughout the years. It is my opinion the witness has a good concept of depth and yardage, do to his experience as an avid outdoorsman. His estimation of height from different angles along with distance is something he experiences often do to his career as a building inspector.

About BFRO Investigator Bob Collier:

Law enforcement officer in southern California.
Avid outdoorsman fishing, hiking, and backpacking.
Have conducted numerous investigations in the southern part of the Sierra Nevada mountain range.


Author:  Darkwing [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: (BFRO) Fresno County

Quote:
Report # 48429 (Class A)
Submitted by witness on Tuesday, April 14, 2015.
Travelers have a nighttime sighting of two hairy bipeds on Hwy. 180 near Grant Grove
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YEAR: 2014

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: August

STATE: California

COUNTY: Fresno County

NEAREST TOWN: Grant Grove

NEAREST ROAD: 180

OBSERVED: My wife and I were driving at about 9:30 p.m. Between Grant Grove and Cherry Gap on highway 180, when we came around a corner and our headlights lit up the straight away and next corner about 100 yards away and at the next corner we saw a large hairy figure walking upright as it stepped onto the road at an angle towards us and it took large strides and crossed the road and went down the embankment. It was very tall with dark hair. I have other observations about the sighting but I was afraid I couldn't get it all done in the aloted time.

OTHER WITNESSES: My wife

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 9:30 p.m. Dark

ENVIRONMENT: Pine forest

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Bob Collier:

On 05/16/15 at approx. 9:45 PM I conducted an interview with the witness by telephone. The witness is fifty years old where he is employed as a building inspector and lives locally in the central California area. He is also an avid outdoorsman and hunter. The witness stated in July 2014 (unknown day) at approx. 9:30 in the evening he and his wife were driving to Hume Lake California to meet some friends for an overnight trip. The witness was driving a four door Saturn compact vehicle, where his wife was seated in the front passenger seat. The witness and his wife were driving on the two lane mountain highway 180 near a Cherry Gap. As they turned on a right hand corner area of the highway, the vehicle headlights illuminated two figures walking down the right hand hillside approaching highway 180. The witness stated the figures were approx. 100-150 yards ahead of them. This observation of the figures caused the witness to slow his vehicle, because he did not expect to see anyone out on the road at this time of night.

The witness stated he observed the first figure to be very large, and walking on two feet, followed by a shorter figure also walking upright on two feet. The witness estimated the shorter figure to be approx. four to five feet tall with light color hair covering its entire body. The witness described the short figure to have a shorter leg stride, where it was trying to keep up with the larger figure who was walking in front of it. The witness stated the larger figured was approx. eight feet tall and its body was covered with hair as well. The witness observed the large figure to have long arms which swung from front to back as it walked. The witness stated his observation of both figures lasted for approx. three to four seconds, where they both walked to the other side of the road and down the embankment. The witness stated the figures walked down in to an area called Millwood Flats. The witness has hunted this area in the past, and he said the entire area is dense forest.

The witness also stated the figures he and his wife saw were not bears walking across the road. He stated the legs and arms were too long and the stride was very human like in comparison, but much longer. I asked the witness if there were any pedestrian traffic on highway 180 during this time, and he said there was not. The witness emphasized this part of the highway was considered a mountain road, and he has never seen anyone walking out on this highway at night. The witness further stated he believes the two figures were not people, because the figures did not have flashlights or headlamps and both again were covered in hair.

During my interview I found the witness to be very credible and knowledgeable about the area described. He has been to the Hume Lake area on multiple occasions throughout the years. It is my opinion the witness has a good concept of depth and yardage, do to his experience as an avid outdoorsman. His estimation of height from different angles along with distance is something he experiences often do to his career as a building inspector.

About BFRO Investigator Bob Collier:

Law enforcement officer in southern California.
Avid outdoors-man fishing, hiking, and backpacking.
Have conducted numerous investigations in the Sierra Nevada mountain range.


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